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NewSQL vs. NoSQL for New OLTP

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"NewSQL vs. NoSQL for New OLTP", by Michael Stonebraker, MIT

** Disclaimer The views and opinions expressed in this video are those of the speaker(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of the USENIX Association. **

Enterprises once used RDBMs for online transaction processing (OLTP) applications, which we affectionately call OldSQL. New OLTP applications have greater performance requirements; in many modern applications—multiplayer games, gambling, social networks, etc.—OldSQL is cracking under the volume of interactions. I contrast two alternatives to OldSQL: NoSQL, where SQL and ACID are jettisoned for better performance; and NewSQL, where SQL and ACID are retained, and innovative architectures improve performance.
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Jul 01, 2015 · 19 points, 5 comments · submitted by mmeg
okigan
Hmm, just looked through the slides (listed to the video at the same time).

The only interesting slide is the last slide VoltDB (new kid on the block), promises some nice performance..., but that's the only slide that actually talks about it (out of 30?) and does not really support it. So HN adpost ?

dwenzek
Yes, the slides are deceptive and they don't motivate me to take time looking the video despite the well-known and rewarded speaker.

This page from VoltDB explains far better "the reasons behind the VoltDB architecture" (http://voltdb.com/products/featuresbenefits/reasons-behind-v...).

sam____
Isn't Oracle able to do in-memory and columnar now?
jhugg
Current VoltDB, former Vertica dev here. The simplest answer to this question is basically to argue that the architecture and implementation matters, and that Oracle (and others) are often bogged down by compatibility constraints and conservatism to really compete on a performance level with in-memory systems like VoltDB, or columnar systems like Vertica.

It's dangerous to underestimate them, because they have money, smart engineers and a machine of a salesforce, with support and relationships that help them sell to lots of customers. But they don't keep me up at night, and most of the deals we see Oracle in (at VoltDB) start with the sentence, "We're looking at TimesTen replacements."

A key thing here is Oracle also costs a truckload of money. Price pressure on Oracle as startups and Open source (or combos) mature is an interesting thing to watch.

srd
Maybe a better link, since it contains the video, the audio-only track and a link to the slides as a pdf: https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa11/newsql-vs-nosql-new...
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