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Joe Rogan Experience #1009 - James Damore
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All the comments and stories posted to Hacker News that reference this video.It's worth a watch if you haven't seen Joe Rogan's podcast with James Damore. I think it adds some much needed context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ1JeII0eGo
⬐ znpyHe seems like a reasonable man, not the aggressive misogynist he's been depicted.⬐ eesmithWho thinks that Google would hire someone who is always an aggressive misogynist?I see he was also wearing a dress shirt this time, unlike the "Goolag" shirt from the WSJ interview.
It's almost like people present different sides of themselves under different circumstances.
⬐ quuquuquuSubject matter aside, our society will have major problems if we condemn someone before getting a full picture of what they are like.When a suspected criminal goes on trial, and testifies, and evidence is presented, we are able to decide for ourselves how good or bad a person is.
When someone tells us, "you should hate this person, just trust me", our society turns into an angry mob.
Why?
Whoever people listen to, that person is human, and can make mistakes.
So, if we all rally around a person who is telling us to condemn someone, and we haven't all informed ourselves of the available evidence...
... it is a witch hunt.
For a good (if scary) insight into the "hidden bias" and "forced diversity" culture inside Google, have a listen to the recent James Damore interview at Joe Rogan's podcast:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ1JeII0eGo
They recount the ways people have been misrepresenting James' (rather meek) position, right down to accusations of sexism, nazism, malicious removal of academic references and outright lies. A sad testimony of this day and age and the current media climate in the US.
It's like people think covering their ears shouting "LALALA NOT TRUE, WILL NOT DISCUSS" has ever been a constructive way of addressing social issues.
I wish Google would come clean and release the raw stats. I understand that's one politically loaded and sensitive dataset, but nothing beats drawing your own conclusions. Right now, Google is getting flak from all sides, lose-lose.
⬐ NoneNone⬐ bedheadHeck, if I recall, Google hasn't even disclosed what exact part of their own code of conduct Mr. Damore was in violation of. Kind of important, don't we think? I suspect these things are purposefully written to be so vague that virtually anything can be interpreted as being in violation. Their reluctance to disclose what specifically he violated (they wouldn't even him when they fired him) suggests they know they would be laughed at.⬐ throw789asd789He was fired for insinuating women are genetically inferior to men.The fact he couched it in pseudo-science, doesn't make that any less true. That's harmful to Google's image, and no woman would want to work with him after that, so he's toxic. They have every right to fire such a person.
⬐ bedheadYawn
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