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Joe Rogan Experience #1035 - Paul Stamets

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Paul Stamets is a mycologist, author and advocate of bioremediation and medicinal fungi. Check out https://www.youtube.com/paulstamets
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Portabello seem to be more dangerous than the general public realizes, though Paul Stamets doesn’t want to go into detail. Some suspect this type of mushroom is highly carcinogenic. Either way, cooking the portobellos at high temperatures should make them safe for consumpion.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=6246&v=mPqWstVnRjQ

"There's been buzz lately about mycelium" -- Well, Paul Stamets has been talking for decades. Did a TED talk, amazing other videos - a fantastic Joe Rogan Podcast etc.

Mycelium is AMAZING - and I really hope that we start using it in the myriad ways it is versatile for so many different applications.

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Have you Seen these Paul Stamets vids:

Joe rogan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

Ted (6 ways mushrooms can change the world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5frPV58tY

https://fungi.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Stamets

azeirah
I recently learned that only about 200,000 out of the estimated 2-5 million species of fungi have been identified.

It's such a huuggee gap of knowledge! The natural world has so much more weird stuff to offer, hope we will learn a lot from these strange non-plants non-animals

I want to reccommend a pretty inspiring JRE podcast with mycologist Paul Stamets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ
jaynetics
JRE = "Joe Rogan Experience" (for those non-americans who can only come up with "Java Runtime Environment" like me)
Paul Stamets is great! I've watched his Rogan episodes 4 or 5 times each.

(2019) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ6Ym719urg

(2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

bonestormii_
TIL there is a spore-obsessed Trek character named after him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Stamets_(Star_Trek)
zachruss92
I never made this connection before, but given they use Mycelium Networks it makes complete sense.
Sep 12, 2020 · 2 points, 0 comments · submitted by tosh
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May 12, 2020 · tosh on The Secret Lives of Fungi
If you are into fungi you might enjoy this Joe Rogan episode with Paul Stamets

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

I studied engineering/physics and I've dipped into the agricultural field the past year having developed an interest in it, also observing the operations of a local organic farm.

It's actually quite fascinating. I'm currently following a course created by Dr. Elaine Ingham, who is a microbiologist that studies soil biology and has done some really amazing research. She also worked at Colorado State University, which can't be a coincidence!

Here's the lowdown of what happens, because we've been getting this wrong for centuries in agriculture. The nutrients (N, Ph, Mg, K, etc) are bound to materials in the soil ranging from rocks to pebbles, to sands, silts and clays. We have been destroying the soil by tilling practices and large machinery which are creating compaction layers that lead to anaerobic conditions causing the "good" biology in the soil to die and also preventing roots from growing to the depth they need. It turns out that the way that the nutrients become available to the roots of the plant is by means of the bacteria/fungi breaking their bonds from the previously mentioned materials (rocks, etc) and then, even more interestingly, they get eaten by higher trophic level predators who shit out the nutrients in plant available form!

Some fun facts: - The roots release sugars (photosynthates) into the soil which attract particular bacteria/fungi based off its needs for nutrients AND pH requirements (bacteria release substances which raise pH and fungi acids which lower it, and the pH can vary on the scale of micrometers based off this)

-Bacteria and particularly fungi (if you haven't studied fungi, go watch Paul Stamets on Joe Rogan, cause they're incredible organisms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ) create symbiotic relationships with the plant, each one feeding and protecting the other.

- Many tests which tell you your soil is low in nutrients can be complete bullshit. Extracting agents will yield different results, and if, for example, you're only looking at soluble nutrients, you're missing the fact that they're available but just bound up chemically and require the biological activity.

- dousing your soil w/ inorganic fertilizers are hardly short-term solutions because 1) if the soil has no structure to it, then they will wash immediately out with rain and 2) you're literally dissolving salts into the water of the soil, making the water unavailable to the plant and can stress the plants more. Sure, they might get a quick dose of nutrients but you're playing a losing game.

- there's a whole bunch of other stuff. Elaine's course available on www.SoilFoodWeb.com, it's a bit expensive, but I find it fascinating and I'm barely halfway past Ch 2. She basically gives you all the science behind it and the know-how of how to address the problem yourself, not rely on a product. She's a total G, it's really fun listening to her and hearing about the history of her research. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Ingham

I'm not sure what this Rhizolizer brand is, but I presume it's not far off from a "tea" made from vermicomposting (i.e., you feed your compost to worms and they shit out a magical biologically rich and diverse "casting" which you can utilize to put the healthy biology back in your soil)

Not directly related but mushroom-guru Paul Stamets recommends against eating Portobello mushrooms or -if you eat them- at least cook them very very well. Paul doesn't dare to go into too many details regarding this mushroom though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ&t=6300s

Also, Enoki mushrooms should prevent some cancers as was seen in Japan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ&t=6495s

Sep 02, 2019 · 1 points, 0 comments · submitted by tosh
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Jul 03, 2019 · ThouYS on Radiotrophic fungus
If you're interested in funghi, I recommend Joe Rogans podcast with Paul Stamets, funghi seem to be able to do many things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ
_carl_jung
I listened to this while preparing for and sitting in a trans-atlantic flight and I loved the whole thing. Paul Stamets verges on cuckoo and it only seems to add to his charm!
VvdHout
Incredible podcast. Super interesting to see somebody so completely soaked into a single topic.
turingbike
Stamets' book, Mycelium Running: How Mushrooms Can Help Save the World [0] is very good, and his enthusiasm is definitely contagious. I will check out the podcast, thought tbh Joe Rogan is pretty hit or miss for me.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/Mycelium-Running-Mushrooms-Help-World...

adamnemecek
He seems like a fun guy.
Robin_Message
Ammusingly, Paul Stamets is the name of a scientist in the newest star trek series. He is an astro-mycologist and apparently they named him for this real scientist.
chubot
He's also a primary "character" in Michael Pollan's book "How To Change Your Mind", on psychadelic mushrooms and LSD (which I'm about halfway through). Pollan has a pretty funny relationship with him -- almost like "frenemies".
mirceal
the character is named after him.
resoluteteeth
The comment you are responding to says that.
cestith
So long as we're correcting people, no. The comment in question says "apparently" the character was named after him. Someone replied that was in fact the case. Then you came along and shamed the person for confirming it.
mirceal
for what is worth the parent comment I responded to was: "Ammusingly, Paul Stamets is the name of a scientist in the newest star trek series." The clarification was added afterwards, but who cares. if people want to downvote me, go ahead :)
eadan
Paul Stamets is a fascinating person. You're right, the Star Trek character is named after him [0]. I remember hearing, perhaps in the Joe Rogan podcast, that he consulted for the show. He has a brilliant TED talk on the world-changing potential of fungi research [1].

[0] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/paul-stamets... [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5frPV58tY

It is indeed. I'd also recommend giving this podcast [1] with Paul Stamets a listen. He's a fairly well-known mycologist who has some very interesting things to say on the topic.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

RosanaAnaDana
Stamets is an interesting guy who should never be considered an authority on anything other than the psychedelic experience. He's fun to listen to, but he's a total crank when it comes to actual reproducible science.
cwkoss
He is certainly an authority on mycology. He has found numerous species, identified mushrooms with antiviral activity for the DoD, created a mushroom-based bee-pest treatment, biological system for killing termites without poison, etc.
kovek
I wish people downvoting this comment would contribute to the discussion. Why not contribute?
robotbikes
I think in general Paul Stamets is not a scientist per se in the form of writing papers and doing academic research but it is hard to deny his influence as a popularizer of mycology. He also writes about the study and growing of mushrooms and these include the edible not just the psychoactive kind. I know he has done some bioremediation demonstrations but perhaps according to the poster these weren't performed with enough scientific rigor. Not everyone who studies and shares information about something does so from the confines of the traditional academic background and not everyone needs a PhD to be an expert about something so perhaps that is why some people are down voting.
erikpukinskis
Sounds like he’s an influencer.
TaylorAlexander
Interesting. I've recently gotten in to Paul Stamets and he certainly seems to be involved in a lot of research. He's also literally written the book (multiples, really) on mushroom cultivation. He started his career legally studying psychedelics through a DEA license at his university, but has since contributed to quite a bit of original research according to his own claims. He has said for example that he (in part or in whole, I can't recall) developed the method the DEA still uses for positively identifying psilocybin. It doesn't seem accurate to call him a crank. Indeed when I heard him discuss the "stoned ape theory" he said it makes sense to him, but that it is not provable in his opinion. Doesn't sound like a crank to me.
I generally dislike mushrooms but I was pretty moved by Joe Rogan's podcast #1035 with Paul Stamets. Despite being over 2 hours long I suggested it to and watched it in it's entirety with several different people and each time we end up discussing the content off and on for weeks or months afterwards. Highly recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

Joe Rogan Experience [0]. I love that he sits down with people and actually has long in-depth conversations with them. Here's a few interesting ones:

* Let's start with his Elon Musk discussion [1]. It came out 2 weeks ago and it already has 14m views. They basically discuss a bunch of his ideas along with things such as AI and the future of humanity. It's fascinating to get a peek into the kind of person he is.

* His discussion with Matthew Walker has been one of the most enlightening ones for me [2]. He's a sleep expert, and in the podcast they go over different myths relating to that. There was recently a HN post [3] where some people were quoting him and his book.

* Another big favorite of mine was his discussion with Paul Stamets [4], a mycologist (i.e. a mushroom expert). They discuss some of the effects of different kinds of mushrooms, including psilocybin mushrooms (colloquially known as magic mushrooms).

* I loved his discussion with Gary Johnson [5], the Libertarian Party's presidential candidate for 2016. How many other presidential candidates would you imagine would be willing to sit down and answer hard-hitting questions for +2 hours? He also had a discussion with Larry Sharpe [6], the Libertarian Party's candidate for governor of New York in 2018. Full disclosure: I recently joined the Libertarian Party. Listening to these podcasts pushed me to learn more about their movement.

* He had a discussion with Mikhaila Peterson [7], the daughter of Jordan Peterson, which many might find interesting. She had been suffering from rheumatoid arthritis and other medical issues all her life, and switching to a carnivore diet made all the symptoms go away

[0] http://podcasts.joerogan.net/

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPr5-27vSI

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwaWilO_Pig

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18050090

[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

[5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQIuHGbKckY

[6] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSmggQZno6w

[7] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF_7688Zk6s

timonoko
Netflix should take best of Joe Rogan podcasts in the repertoire. When properly translated, they have worldwide audience. Joe Rogan standups are actually of lesser value, because they mostly deal with domestic issues in America.
Sep 12, 2018 · nugga on State of the World's Fungi
Paul Stamets on the Joe Rogan Experience talking about Lion's Mane (Hericium erinaceus) and magic mushrooms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

Combining those two with Vitamin B3 (Niacin) supposedly does wonders for circulation or something along those lines. I can only attest that the niacin flush makes me want to rub and massage my body everywhere because it feels so nice and warm.

(Note: long term daily extreme doses of Niacin may contribute to liver problems)

pmoriarty
Careful, because the niacin flush could come with a significant core temperature drop, along with unpleasant symptoms like headaches or nausea.
Yup. He gets into it on JRE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

Amazing podcast. Well worth a listen.

I found the conversation between Paul Stamets and Joe Rogan to be super interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ . Never really thought much about mushrooms until that episode. This proof of concept seems like a great taste of how much untapped potential fungi have for changing everyday life if we invest more into its research.
Bret Victor - Inventing on principle

https://vimeo.com/36579366

Alan Kay - Power of Simplicity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdSD07U5uBs

Steve Jobs - Marketing (unveiling Think Different)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HsGAc0_Y5c

Robert Cialdini - On Influence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC6ItuT1Eso

Peter Thiel - On Zero to One (Notes on Starts Ups or How to Build the Future)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZQnKtjM1TA

Naval Ravikant on Reading, Happiness, Systems for Decision Making, Habits, Honesty and More (Farnam Street podcast)

https://www.fs.blog/2017/02/naval-ravikant-reading-decision-...

Josh Wolfe - On "This is who you are up against" podcast

http://investorfieldguide.com/wolfe/

Richard Feynman - Fun to Imagine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zZbX_9ru9U

Paul Graham - Startup school (2008)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7K0vRUKXKc

James Burke - Connections (BBC documentary)

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Jim Al-Khalili tells the story of the Atom (BBC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm3p_3Vgejk

Elon Musk's 2003 Stanford University Entrepreneurial Thought Leaders Lecture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZTrfvB2AQ

Ken Robinson - Do schools kill creativity?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY

Paul Stamets on mycology, bioremediation and fungi- Joe Rogan Experience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

whatyoucantsay
Fantastic list!
Feb 14, 2018 · 1 points, 0 comments · submitted by tmnvix
As a lay person, it's not clear to me whether these malacidins were found in mycelium (fungi). I'm inclined to think this is likely. If so, finding them in dirt is not really surprising (30% of dirt is comprised of mycelium - living and dead). It seems like the obvious place to look for new antibiotics.

For anyone that's interested in fungi I can't recommend listening to Paul Stamets talk on the subject more highly. Like a lot of people here on HN I take in a lot of information and his recent interview with Joe Rogan[0] was one of the most fascinating things I've come across in years.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

8bitsrule
There was a reason all of the indigenous cultures got out in the woods and got to know their plant neighbors -very- well. 4 billion years of evolution produced copious treasures for those humble enough to root around in the woods and swamps. (Favorite example: aspirin)
I stumbled upon Paul Stamets on Joe Rogan's podcast, which made a nice introduction to the world of funghi- absolutely fascinating and exciting to think of what else we may discover in this field in the coming years! For anyone interested- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ
davidp670
I was just going to mention this. Highly recommend this podcast episode
filoeleven
Yes it’s a good interview. Though it got very weird for a minute when he was asked about the health issues with button mushrooms and refused to answer because he said it put his life in danger. I wanna know what that’s all about!
Nov 09, 2017 · OzzyB on A fungus with over 20k sexes
OT: The Joe Rogan podcast recently had Paul Stamets on who talks at great length about fungi and it's benefits -- truly fascinating stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqWstVnRjQ

hourislate
That segment about how the fungi slime reorganized the Tokyo Subway System into a more efficient system was fascinating. Curious whether you could use this in someway to design everything from Circuit Boards to Software. One of my favorites so far.
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