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1958 FACOM 128B Japanese Relay Computer, still working!
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All the comments and stories posted to Hacker News that reference this video.If you like relay computes, you might also like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j544ELauus1958 FACOM 128B Japanese Relay Computer
Sounds really cool when it's running!
⬐ dokemI just got into that channel recently. The youtuber was one of the 4 guys that restored the Apollo guidance computer. The entire process is documented on his channel. It was very humbling to watch these guys debug damn near every transistor and logic gate and eventually run the old lunar landing sequence. The also recovered some lost code that was still stored in the core-rope ram from 50 years ago, as well as built gate accurate emulators for the AGC itself and other peripherals. Definitely worth checking out.
⬐ jshprentzAdditional information about the FACOM 128B:In a July 2019 article, The Asahi Shimbun reports that Fujitsu technician Tadao Hamada keeps the ancient computer running. http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201907280007.html
On the IPSJ Computer Museum web site, the Information Processing Society of Japan provides more details about relay-based FACOM computers:
FACOM 128B background: http://museum.ipsj.or.jp/en/heritage/facom128b.html
FACOM 128A and 128B technical information: http://museum.ipsj.or.jp/en/computer/dawn/0012.html
⬐ AnimatsOh, that's a great video. Enough detail to understand how it worked.As usual in that era, the big problem was memory. Memory in crossbar switches was so expensive that the programs are on paper tape loops. By then, they would have known how to put programs in crossbar memory.
⬐ dmixI'd love a video on how that ticket gate machine works and why it's so complicated! https://i.imgur.com/56mmt5c.png⬐ kristopolous⬐ timonokoLooking at it, it appears to be a mostly mechanical solution (you'll need clocks, configurability based on location, detection of ticket orientation, etc). They probably got a version working 30 years ago and just stick with what works.It's infrastructure level time horizons. When you have 10,000 of something built into the foundation of something that needs to be operational nearly all the time, upgrades take years. Look at the new york relay signaling based metro.
Why didnt they use rotary dialers for input. It would have been funnier. LM.Ericsson et.al. had ready-made 10 number dial receivers and input register in a handy 200 kilo rack.⬐ Aardwolf180 words of crossbar memory apparently (a word being 69 bits), not 128 bytes as the name of the computer make me think at first⬐ 2sk21Loved the video and subscribed to the channel. I really appreciate efforts to keep old computers systems alive.⬐ mtsxWow, pretty impressive. Sounds like its playing own kind of music while its doing the calculations.⬐ dddwloved that video⬐ angrygoatA little bit blown away by the biquinary coding used by this machine: at first it seems like a really odd design choice, but as the video explains at ~ 12:00 it makes fault finding for stuck relays much easier.A really neat example of a design choice which makes a lot of sense for the problem domain in question, but it's also just so awesome that someone could actually see this solution: I can't imagine I would have!
⬐ tgvThis, or possibly a variant, was also used in early electronic circuits, because the it would keep the load constant, if I remember correctly.⬐ AardwolfThe coding is just like a Japanese abacus!