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Elevator Hacking: From the Pit to the Penthouse

DeviantOllam · Youtube · 13 HN points · 15 HN comments
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Throughout the history of hacker culture, elevators have played a key role. From the mystique of students at MIT taking late-night rides upon car tops (don't do that, please!) to the work of modern pen testers who use elevators to bypass building security systems (it's easier than you think!) these devices are often misunderstood and their full range of features and abilities go unexplored. This talk will be an in-depth explanation of how elevators work... allowing for greater understanding, system optimizing, and the subversion of security in many facilities. Those who attend will learn why an elevator is virtually no different than an unlocked staircase as far as building security is concerned!



While paying the bills as a security auditor and penetration testing consultant with his company, The CORE Group, Deviant Ollam is also member of the Board of Directors of the US division of TOOOL, The Open Organisation Of Lockpickers. Deviant runs the Lockpicking Village with TOOOL at HOPE, DEFCON, ShmooCon, etc, and he has conducted physical security training sessions for Black Hat, DeepSec, ToorCon, HackCon, ShakaCon, HackInTheBox, ekoparty, AusCERT, GovCERT, CONFidence, the United States Military Academy at West Point, and the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis. His favorite Amendments to the US Constitution are, in no particular order, the 1st, 2nd, 9th, & 10th.

Howard Payne is an elevator consultant from New York specializing in code compliance and accident investigations. He has logged over 9,000 hours examining car-tops, motor rooms, and hoistways in cases ranging from minor injuries to highly-publicized fatalities, and has contributed to forensic investigations that have been recognized by local, State, and Federal courts. Howard has appeared on national broadcast television making elevators do things they never should. When he's not riding up and down high-rise hoistways, he moonlights as a drum and bass DJ and semi-professional gambler. His favorite direction is Up and his favorite elevator feature is riot mode.
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SimTower started as elevator simulator, and was then turned into a game.

Also, this is a great talk if you want to know more about elevators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus

Jul 08, 2021 · mpd on List of Special Elevator Modes
I ran into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus (Elevator Hacking: From the Pit to the Penthouse) awhile back, and it was so interesting to me that I ended up watching the entire 2 hours in one sitting.
If you're interested in elevators and the hacking thereof I would also highly recommend this talk: https://youtu.be/ZUvGfuLlZus
simlevesque
The kind of videos you can watch once a year. Deviant Ollam is so interesting.
Relevant video discussing fire keys and other common keys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9b9IYqsb_U

And since this thread is about elevators, I have to also mention another video of theirs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus

May 06, 2021 · 1 points, 0 comments · submitted by sgignoux
Here’s a fascinating look into hacking of elevators and how the different modes work

https://youtu.be/ZUvGfuLlZus

Feb 12, 2020 · 10 points, 0 comments · submitted by puter
It is perhaps more appropriate to say the button frequently does nothing because you frequently lack the proper permissions... https://youtu.be/ZUvGfuLlZus
Deviant Ollam does another talk with elevator consultant Howard Payne just about elevator security which is fantastic. It's very similar to this one, but goes deeper into the single subject. There are a few versions on YouTube of various lengths, but here's the 2 hour version: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus
Deviant Ollam - The Hotel Room Gourmet https://youtu.be/qtFV73wpEAw

Also not 2018 but his elevator with Howard Payne talk: https://youtu.be/oHf1vD5_b5I (1h version) https://youtu.be/ZUvGfuLlZus (2h version)

And the search for the perfect door: https://youtu.be/4YYvBLAF4T8

unixhero
Deviant Ollam seriously needs an award.
There was an elevator hacking talk that went into the buffers at the bottom of the elevator. You may have seen them in elevators that have glass on the outside of the shaft like in malls and hotels. The elevator never rests on those. Those are to take the impact of an elevator that crashes. Inspectors will often test the buffers as well as part of routine maintenance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus

Yes. That's the shorter censored versoion.

I recommend the full 2 hour version, with all the secrets: https://youtu.be/ZUvGfuLlZus

My second favourite talk: You spent all that money and your still got owned: https://youtu.be/tJsNu0VRKYY

I even watch these again and again.

Apr 26, 2016 · _asummers on Mosh: the mobile shell
And watch this[0] entire (super entertaining) talk from Hope X about elevator security. You get a pretty good feal for how the safety measures work after watching it.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus

Apr 26, 2016 · vhost- on Mosh: the mobile shell
You both should watch the elevator hacking talk that was given at HOPE X: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus
andy_ppp
This is already very entertaining :-) Thanks!
nyolfen
Seconding this: I like to put hacker con talks on in the background while I do other things, and this was the most entertaining panel from HOPE X in my opinion
Mar 11, 2016 · 2 points, 0 comments · submitted by dgellow
I don't know about subways, but elevators should never be a part of a building's security because they're so easy to hack[1].

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus

Oct 30, 2014 · maqr on Rappelling Off a Roof
> After a week of recon I found out that the 4th and 5th floors are only accessible with a very specific card via the elevator. I didn’t have that card. Even if I get to the elevator I could not go to the 5th floor

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus

icedog
Interesting that one of those presenters is named Howard Payne. Along with Payne being an elevator company, Howard Payne is the name of the antagonist in 'Speed', who hacks an elevator...
Crito
I get the impression that that is not actually his name. ;)

I believe this is his twitter account: https://twitter.com/SgtHowardPayne

icedog
Ahhh, that explains it. Thanks for the detective work.
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