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Web 2.0 Expo NY 2010: John Gruber, "Apple and the Open Web"

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John Gruber (Daring Fireball),
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Web 2.0 Expo NY 2010: John Gruber, "Apple and the Open Web" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qss5RnD7wK8

This is an old presentation by Gruber (Daring Fireball) from 2010, but it is still excellent. And only 10 minutes long. He argues that iOS vs Web is a false dichotomy, in fact, the Web was from the start a big part of iOS. He then differentiates between "Web Apps vs Browser Apps". Your notion is, that a Web App is something which uses html. But he argues, and I think this rings true, that a Web App is something which uses http.

"How can you say that Twitter, even though it is a native iPhone App, isn't really a Web App?"

I found this post by Gruber (2004!) historically important and interesting, given the recent discussions about Web, openness and the shift from web apps to mobile apps. This recent talk by Gruber is equally insightful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qss5RnD7wK8&feature=playe...

ludwigvan
Also, offtopic, but this article is a fantastic read too: "In the Beginning was the Command Line" http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html
Sep 29, 2010 · 2 points, 0 comments · submitted by lotusleaf1987
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