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Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World by SethBling, IsoFrieze in 11:55 - SGDQ 2022

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Runner introduction starts at 1:21
Run starts at 3:27
Prizes start at 25:48
Commentary is provided by GTAce and DwangoAC
iggyzig is host

This speedrun was recorded during Summer Games Done Quick 2022, a week long charity speedrun marathon raising money for Doctors Without Borders. Summer Games Done Quick 2022 is just one of the many charity marathons organized by Games Done Quick. For more information on Summer Games Done Quick 2022, find us at: https://gamesdonequick.com/

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Jul 05, 2022 · 108 points, 23 comments · submitted by pimeys
rockbruno
I love these, they are always really impressive. They've done the same with Ocarina of Time in the same event[0] to inject entirely new levels into the game on the fly and even give it Wi-Fi capabilities (sort of)

[0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x_pqyrf9lA

elldoubleyew
I don't understand how they got a network connection to load in the chat on an unmodified console. Was the TASBot connected to the network and pushing the messages via controller inputs? If so that is pretty insane.
raldi
Yes; the four controller ports allow a total of like 60 bytes per read.
gfaure
Actually, they progressively inject faster bootstrappers and end up with about 4.8 kB/s: https://youtu.be/qBK1sq1BQ2Q
VyseofArcadia
I'm pretty impressed all the stuff they patched in the game at just 4.8 kB/s. TASBot was not active for all that long.
bdonlan
TASBot was only controlling controller 1 for a short time, but it remained connected to controllers 2-4 for the entire run, giving it time to download additional content as the showcase was going on.
VyseofArcadia
Ah, I was under the impression that it had stopped. That makes more sense.
raldi
But still about 60 bytes per read, an insurmountable limit.
NobodyNada
Yes, TASBot is controlled by a PC connected to the network, and was pushing chat messages over the controller port in addition to ACE payloads.

Everything is on GitHub, so here's the code that was injected into the game to read commands from TASBot over the controller port: https://github.com/triforce-percent/triforce-percent/blob/01...

birracerveza
That is pure insanity, the in-engine custom ending with BotW shading is mind blowing.
7373737373
Recommended: Pokémon Yellow Total Control Hack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5T81yHkHtI
ComputerCat
Brings back so many memories
s3r3nity
Awesome to watch, and I recommend listening to the technical explanations if you have time.

I love some of the YouTube videos coming out recently explaining not just this exploit, but also some of the Zelda: Ocarina of Time applications of ACE, including a new category called "Triforce%," in which speedrunners use a program to input millions of inputs that essentially code a _new game_ within the _original, un-modded cartridge._

I feel like I've learned more about assembly and architecture concepts from those videos in the past year or so than I had reading any other book over the course of my career.

peterkelly
Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB6eY73sLV0
brink
Topic aside; GDQ seems to be getting more political every year. Sad to see.
randomhodler84
Calling people by their preferred pronouns isn’t politics, it’s not being an asshole.
thebitstick
"Oh no, someone prefers being called by a pronoun they weren't born with, the humanity!"

Grow up.

minimaxir
What exactly is the politics you're referring to?
skyyler
I have two guesses:

When runners are being featured, their preferred pronouns are displayed on screen.

Their events were remote during the pandemic, the recent event last week required everyone attending to wear masks.

danparsonson
The end of civilisation as we know it!
skyyler
Won't someone think of the transphobic gamers and their needs???
SkeuomorphicBee
Just to add some context, arbitrary code execution in Super Mario World is nothing new, it has been known since 2014. There was a tool assisted demonstration at Awesome Games Done Quick 2014 [1] where they inject a pong and a snake game using a TASBot (a robot controller that replays input scripts to the console). And in 2016 a streamer performed it manually to inject a flappy birds game [2] (this second video is really good, he goes into detail of the process).

So, what this newer demonstration brings is the use of the known arbitrary code execution capabilities of "Super Mario World" to help finish all 5 games in "Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World" as quick as possible.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnZ2NNYySuE

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB6eY73sLV0

CSMastermind
Disclaimer: I didn't watch the linked video but I did watch some of Sethbling's older videos about the All-Stars exploit which I assume this post is in reference to.

I think the bigger exploit here is not only the Super Mario World ACE but the Mario 3 save file exploit.

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