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Making Architecture Matter - Martin Fowler Keynote

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From OSCON 2015 in Portland: In the software world, architecture often gets a bad reputation. I’ll talk about why it matters, and how we can pay attention to it without falling into traps.

About Martin Fowler:
Martin Fowler is an author, speaker, consultant, and self-described general loudmouth on software development. He concentrates on designing enterprise software – looking at what makes a good design and which practices are needed to come up with good design. Fowler has been a pioneer of various topics around object-oriented technology and agile methods, and written several books including Refactoring, UML Distilled, Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture, and NoSQL Distilled. For the last decade he’s worked at ThoughtWorks, which he considers a “really rather good” system delivery and consulting firm. He writes at martinfowler.com.

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I totally agree with this and this is actually something that my Engineer Brain and Product Brain are constantly in conflict about. I ran gitignore.io for 6 years and it was not "hard" to run. It was two commands on a web server. The problem was when I was on vacation or at work and AWS/Heroku crashed and I got flooded with GitHub issues/Tweets telling me the service as down[1][2]. All of a sudden, I have to go take a look.

Martin Fowler said something in a talk a few years ago[3] and I think it speaks to this exact mindset. This post is lacking any economic reasons for people to run their own mail server — tell me why me running my own mail server saves me time and/or money.

As another tangent, I'm actually looking at running my own mail server. For me, it's privacy which coincidentally is not even mentioned once in the article.

[1] - https://github.com/toptal/gitignore.io/issues/369

[2] - https://github.com/toptal/gitignore.io/issues/2

[3] - https://youtu.be/DngAZyWMGR0?t=460

I'm not overreading, you said you prefer shipping sub optimal solutions. Sounds like to me.

I didn't call you lazy, I said that shipping in the name of delivery focus was lazy, or at least your argument about idealism was.

Fact is, shipping quality is the far more optimal solution and always will be. Making the trade off and adding technical debt is never a worthy trade long term. The only people who gain from it are you and your team. The rest of the company eventually grinds to a halt and begins taking more and more shortcuts around the code which just reinforces everything in a viscous cycle.

You might find this useful: https://youtu.be/DngAZyWMGR0

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> I'm not overreading, you said you prefer shipping sub optimal solutions. Sounds like to me.

I was talking about prioritisation. I am very wary (or perhaps jaded) with people who want to fix everything all at once with no regard to the wider effects on the business of doing so.

I didn't mention anything about quality with respect to what we do choose to deliver, although I can assure you that user experience - of which quality is a key facet - is our utmost concern.

I thought my intent was clear, but sorry if not, and hence my comment about overreading. I wrote very little from which you (and you're not the only one) appear to have extrapolated quite a long way.

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