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⬐ mypoormother

Before having their cocks slit up and turned inside out into beautiful trans vaginas, the Whackowskee Brothers raped and killed my mother.

Initially, I was angry about the news... Until I saw the film The Matrix. What a cool movie! Dude, remember the part where Neo was like, "Uhuh I'on't think so, bulletS!" And then he stopped the bullets with his mind powers or whatever. That shit was AWESOME!

The Whackowskee sisters can rape and murder my mom any day they want now, they are true travelers. Heck, they can even rape me if they want. I'll give up my asshole for them. :)

⬐ spsesk117

I may be the odd one out here, but I wasn't that "wow'd" by the trailer. I loved the cinematography of the original films, that seemed to embrace the dystopic vision of a world permanently trapped on the verge of Y2K. I also found myself disappointed to not see Huge Weaving or Lawrence Fishburn in the trailer, perhaps they weren't available?

Either way I'm looking forward to the film and seeing how the setting fares in a modern context, but was just surprised by how different the trailer felt tonally to the originals.

⬐ klaussilveira

> dystopic vision of a world permanently trapped on the verge of Y2K

What a precise description of my own perspective of the movie. Thank you! :)

⬐ sva_

Isn't too surprising for a movie released in 1999?

⬐ nine_zeros

One of the charms of the original matrix was that it felt like a bash terminal. The actions of people inside the matrix felt like CLI operations. Programs fighting viruses.

This trailer appears to be more - Transformers-like. More explosions, more fight scenes and maybe some futile goal.

I hope I am wrong and I'm still going to watch it.

⬐ afavour

I think there's a danger of over-romanticizing a movie we all watched when we were a lot younger than we are today. The first Matrix movie absolutely had a lot of explosions, fight scenes and a futile (within the grand scheme of Matrix lore) goal.

⬐ nine_zeros

I happen to like fight scenes, especially when they build up the lore.

But fight scenes as the main thing, once the lore is built up, makes for a full experience imo.

⬐ phyalow

I agree, this doesnt scream punk, which is what made the originals so cool. Where is the leather, grit and slider phones?

I am totally underwhelmed. It feels like Inception meets Marvel.

⬐ professoretc

> Lawrence Fishburn

Morpheus died in The Matrix Online which, for some reason, is considered canon.

⬐ ekianjo

> I loved the cinematography of the original film

Fixed that for you. 2nd and 3rd were the worst.

⬐ imwillofficial

You can’t fix another persons subjective opinion.

⬐ jerf

While I'll happily agree that 2 and 3 are overall bad films, they are not uniformly bad films, like, every second of them is bad or something.

I've never gone looking for them but I bet there are excellent fan edits of them. There's plenty of good material there, it's just also surrounded by too much not so good material, and, sometimes, just plain too much material period.

⬐ yehudalouis

Something about the "real world" in this trailer was portrayed too cleanly and fleshy - my memory of the first two movies was that the "real world" was bland, flat, and empty, sterile.

⬐ SV_BubbleTime

I wouldn’t have described that so easily. You’re right.

I understand why they had to go back. Why Neo had to lose his memory, why they had to go back to being “inside”. It’s been so long that it makes sense people want the first movie again. To take the pill and follow the rabbit. The woman in the red dress is there without a doubt.

So unless there’s some reason for exactly what you described, that it’s all bright and shiny, and Doogie Houser is there, then yea, it’s a much different feel. Maybe it’s because they are “in the core”.

⬐ fraqed

Some comments on YouTube have suggested that the brighter look to the Matrix is because at the end of Revolutions, Sati makes a beautiful sunrise for Neo.

Resurrections will apparently occur in the seventh version of the Matrix, the one at the end of Revolutions.

⬐ afavour

If I recall every scene in the "real world" was given a slightly green tint that made it look a little more "off" and sterile.

⬐ rswskg

The original matrix had a distinct tint to it. Green. The real world was blue.

This was...normal. Vivid, colourful even. It didn't feel like the matrix

⬐ spuz

When you say "real world" do you mean the matrix? Because we only get fractions of a second of a glimpse of the "real" world in this trailer as far as I can tell.

⬐ None

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⬐ sto_hristo

It became clean at the end of Revolutions (when the green tint was removed), signifying the transition to the truce. So since the imagery in the Resurrections trailer is clear, that means it picks up where it ended and will move on from there.

⬐ supperburg

I have read the leaks which are apparently accurate and have matched up with the trailer and teaser. I’m so disappointed. Imagine what could have been done with this. There were several iterations of the matrix according to the lore, and each one of those offered an opportunity to host a whole new story with a whole new protagonist while maintaining all the tropes and themes that made matrix 1 and 2 so good — all while staying true to the lore!

The bread and butter of the matrix is represented by the château scene in matrix 2. It is the epitome of tight computer-accelerated action. Such an amazing and elegant sequence. Maybe I missed it but I didn’t see enough of that in the trailer. And based on everything I know, the movie is a meta critique commentary thing. I don’t like that.

⬐ drcongo

The second film is appalling. Just a load of loosely strung together tedious action sequences like most Marvel output.

⬐ chaostheory

I feel that everything after the first movie suffered from the plot being hobbled by metaphors and symbolism. The 2nd movie's action sequences also suffered because they decided to replace their fight coordinator(s) from the 1st movie.

I'm not excited about this movie either.

⬐ seafoam

Animatrix was a set of ~9 animated shorts adjacent to the original Matrix film.

Most of the shorts were mediocre, but 3 of them were excellent.

⬐ chaostheory

You're right. I forgot about that.

> Most of the shorts were mediocre, but 3 of them were excellent.

Was it the 1st episode with samurai theme, kids in the "haunted house" episode, and the Flight of the Osiris?

⬐ seafoam

World Record is also very good.

⬐ specialist

Clever.

I'm hoping Lana Wackowski had more creative control (authority) this time. The premise of humans as batteries, because some dweeb studio execs couldn't imagine AI parasites using humans as CPUs, was turrible.

Awaiting the second movie, our office (of nerds) had a strict "no spoilers" policy. Our team was going to the opening that weekend. I trolled a superfan coworker by saying the humans were on a generation ship, kept in suspended animation, and the simulation was meant to keep them sane, but something broke. She was so mad at me. Twice. (Still disappointed she never pranked me in retaliation.)

⬐ dkdbejwi383

I remember this being a common fan-theory before the sequels came out.

It's a decent story idea.

⬐ kop316

It's pretty similar to a Star Trek Voyager episode

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thaw_(Star_Trek:_Voyager...

⬐ guardiangod

Yeah I was just thinking about this episode last night. One of the few good and memorable Voyager episodes.

⬐ dschuessler

I feel like the score has a significant part in this.

⬐ Zelphyr

When I first saw The Matrix I was mesmerized. I went back every weekend for a month and saw it again. Something I had never done before and haven't done since. The effects were amazing, of course, but, the story was what got me. I couldn't stop thinking about all the intricacies and possibilities of a world like that.

I hope this new movie goes back to that. I just saw Free Guy over the weekend and between falling asleep and listening to the people behind me talk, I really feel like I had wasted my money. It's not that the movie is bad but, you knew after the first 10-15 minutes pretty much how it was going to play out. It seems to me that's how most movies are these days. Hollywood doesn't seem to be interested in telling any original or compelling stories anymore.

⬐ jstx1

I expect mildly entertaining schlock with too many callbacks to the original trilogy for the sake of nostalgia. I’ll still see it though.

⬐ LightG

Exactly. I'll watch this for the same reason I watch Star Wars.

And who knows, hopefully they'll pull the rabbit out of the bag on this one.

⬐ dschuessler

This is way more interesting than I had anticipated. Some YouTube comment made the excellent observation that we don't know what kind of reality(es) we are looking at in this trailer:

"Anyone talking about color grading doesn’t realize they don’t know what this world/ Matrix is yet. That green was for THAT Matrix.“

If they really are using the premise of the franchise to keep us guessing about what exactly we are looking at, this might be its best possible continuation. Consider me intrigued for that alone.

However, as the trailer dialed up the schlocky action I was reminded of how right Roger Ebert was about the original:

"It's kind of a letdown when a movie begins by redefining the nature of reality, and ends with a shoot-out."

⬐ swalsh

I'm slightly surprised they kept the red pill / blue pill, after it's since been heavily co-opted.

⬐ imwillofficial

What would the movie be like without it?

⬐ wp381640

kudos to them for reclaiming it. always found it ironic that the alt-right co-opted the creation of trans women

⬐ staysafeanon

The alt-right did not co-opt the term. It was somewhat co-opted in some "manosphere" men's rights movements, not the alt-right.

⬐ arrakeen

agreed. i can't wait to see wachowski subvert the "redpilled" meme. i mean, the trailer starts out by saying "triggered" so i have a strong suspicion this will be the case

⬐ dragonwriter

> always found it ironic that the alt-right co-opted the creation of trans women

Especially since its not just the creation of trans women, but something of an extended metaphor of trans experience.

⬐ staysafeanon

"See reality for what it truly is."

Many fringe groups (political and otherwise) believe they've achieved some kind of transcendence and can see through the fabricated facade that is the precieved reality of the world.

They've taken the red pill in their mind.

⬐ luxuryballs

In the dark future NEO wakes up to find himself stuck inside a farm of human milking machines!

⬐ jasperry

Very disappointed that it appears to be yet another soft reboot. Recipe: cook up whatever backstory is needed to have Keanu and Carrie-Anne in it, then rehash all the plot and action beats of the Matrix 1 exactly.

⬐ bobbydreamer

They should have started the trailer with the voice Mr.Anderson...

⬐ edpadilla

The first Matrix trilogy ends just before Steve Jobs announced the iPhone, so probably this was the reason we are in the Matrix again and we Neo to save us.

⬐ dehrmann

Interesting how it's very clearly set in SF. The original movies were all in an anonymous city.

⬐ vernie

If by anonymous city you mean the largest city in Australia.

⬐ dehrmann

I don't remember seeing the Opera House or Harbor Bridge in it. It was filmed there, but it wasn't set there.

⬐ beatthatflight

you can actually spot at least the Harbour Bridge, and the twins sequence (woman in the red dress) is in front of the Martin Place fountain in the heart of Sydney's business district.

And IIRC, the under the bridge 'remove the bug' scene is filmed just near Central station.

⬐ arthurcolle

Time to fly

⬐ plasma_beam

hohumm..at least it'll be "free" on hbo max

⬐ reginold

Is this a signal that 2022 will be the year of DESKTOP LINUX?

⬐ emilfihlman

The trailer was bad(ly done and implemented, wrong music choice etc), but holy shit HYPE!

⬐ imwillofficial

The song choice is perfect, what are you talking about?

⬐ lilboiluvr69

I am of the opinion that The Matrix probably shouldn't have had a sequel. While parts of the later films were interesting, they depend on retconning Neo from having the ability to re-write the Matrix at its core to basically becoming Goku.

I was really hoping the new movie would be a reboot, as the over-the-top fight scenes and CGI wasn't what made me interested in the series.

Still, could be a fun popcorn move with friends.

⬐ dehrmann

Here's a retracted(?), long read about what Lana was going through at the time the sequels were being made. It more or less details her coming to terms with her gender identity during the production, and blames weaknesses of the films on her being distracted.

https://web.archive.org/web/20060115061830/http://www.rollin...

⬐ dkdbejwi383

If anything this article is interesting just to see how differently people thought of trans issues in 2006. The article obsessively makes connections between gender identity and sexuality

⬐ alanwreath

I felt the same but did enjoy the ride all the same. I guess what can be said was that the first movie was good enough for me to endure the sequels. And the animatrix makes me think there is more story here that could be explored.

⬐ beefok

Could I please just get a full movie of The Second Renaissance? :)

⬐ lilboiluvr69

Where is part III?!

⬐ lilboiluvr69

Yes, that is true. The Animatrix is a great film, and The Second Renaissance is in my opinion the single greatest piece of animation to have ever been created.

⬐ jacknews

My kids (12, 14) watched the Matrix for the first time recently and loved it.

They thought the two sequels were, less, and much less.

Will this be fresh, or rehash?

⬐ dharmab

Consider the John Wick movies instead, depending on your parental discretion.

⬐ krono

Judging from the trailer, just the standard action movie recipe with some very light Matrix IP sauce

⬐ krono

It's all so bright and saturated. The more I watch the trailer the more I dislike it.

⬐ krono

A few days after my previous comment it began to dawn on me that the brighter tone might actually carry a deeper connection to the Matrix 3's ending.

Nothing is what it seems, but - potentially - on a level way beyond (or perhaps above?) our expectations.

Very excited to see where they're taking this now and my previous two comments in this thread are dumb :)

⬐ ekianjo

> I am of the opinion that The Matrix probably shouldn't have had a sequel

Especially since it did not need one at all the way it was written. You could at stopped at the end of the first one and be very satisfied with what you have done.

⬐ CodeGlitch

Great music - although the rest of the trailer didn't fill me with the excitement I would have hoped (I was a massive Matrix fan back in the day). I think it's a movie that simply doesn't need to be made?

⬐ ali92hm

I had the same feeling when I was watching the trailer. I'm hoping the story is interesting and continues to fill in some of the open questions of the trilogy. I have a feeling that I will be disappointed though!