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Would that normally be in such a document? Plenty of engineering type documents I have read don't lay out threats in plain English nor do they try to add emotional urgency to them.

Reminds me of this comment about how scientists sometimes understate how certain they are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VG_s2PCH_c&t=785s.

Last Week Tonight has a nice episode on Vaccines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VG_s2PCH_c

It explains why vaccines are important, why "taking it slow" with vaccines is a bad approach, and other important stuff.

Please vaccinate yourself and your kids.

⬐ iknowalot

Congo and surrounding countries have a long history of tainted vaccines. The CIA and the apartheid South African government worked very hard to poison people with numerous illnesses including infecting them with HIV using vaccine centers. I'm sure many of the operators in the area just realized HIV takes a lot longer to work than ebola, measles, plague, etc.

You guys are assuming all the players involved in this region are fair and honest, major error. Some of the world's most valuable mines are being fought over, humans are collateral damage to the international orgs involved.

⬐ C1sc0cat

The KGB/FSB admitted that they did this

⬐ rahuldottech

Do you have a source for this claim?

⬐ C1sc0cat

Yep its common knowledge now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infektion

⬐ op00to

Proof? A quick google did not bring up the CIA, Congo, and vaccines.

⬐ jimclegg

The most recent accounts I've seen were in Cold Case Hammarskjöld (documentary).

They found a few defectors/whistleblowers that had visited and worked at SAIMR's (South African Institute for Maritime Research) CIA funded labs used to synthesize these bogus vaccines, mainly HIV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLclWdK0cy4

⬐ jolotriage

HN Commenters: "Africans have nothing to worry about with vaccines..."

White SAIMR ex-agent: beware of the "'white philanthropists' coming in and opening free X to help treat Y..."

Seems a mixture of ignorance, white, and first world privilege are at work here at the same time.

Yes, sometimes explanations and reasonable arguments can just derail conversations completely. For preventing that, I find David Burns' disarming technique[0] really useful. It is about "finding truth in what the other person is saying, even if it seems blatantly wrong, or illogical, or exaggerated." His podcast is amazing.

Perhaps part of what your room mate is saying is that she is concerned about the well-being of her (future) children? Surely that's truly good. She's also interested in avoiding certain medical treatments that are excessive or unnecessary, which is also good.

Don't know about the Holocaust-denying colleague, but sometimes xenophones have a fear of losing their job to someone else, which could leave them unable to economically support themselves or their family, and maybe they really enjoy the job they have. If your colleague talks about you being indoctrinated, then he must have a high regard of the truth (which is good), and if he's interested in how indoctrination works, he may even be interested in reading about Chomsky's propaganda model[1].

Of course, this disarming stuff is only useful if you actually want to prevent conflict with other people, and it's totally legitimate to have a conflict with anti-vaxers and Holocaust deniers. But also, you live and work together, and constant conflicts may not get you nor them anywhere but down.

Also, Last Week Tonight has quite a good episode on vaccines[2] (but showing that to your roomie might not calm things down).

WTF indeed, though.

[0]: https://feelinggood.com/2017/12/11/066-five-secrets-training...

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VG_s2PCH_c

[2]: https://chomsky.info/consent01/

⬐ eoincathal

Thank you. I'll check out those links.

Long day, so will sleep on it before doing so.

Quite saddened by the day though.