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All the comments and stories posted to Hacker News that reference this video.Take note people. See the mental poison infecting all aspects of culture. If you disagree with this nonsense, you need to push back and speak up.For an example of how bad this can get (and has gotten) see:
One of the most captivating interviews I've watched recently.
Don't say you weren't warned.
edit: Isn't it funny this thread is dead/flagged? You can't even have an opinion on the issue that doesn't fall in line with the established "correct" position. No discussion is allowed. The pros and cons cannot even be enumerated without censorship.
On an issue that directly involves development practices and would necessitate more work for developers. Talking about it is off limits! If that's not the very definition of suppression of speech, I don't know what is. People that have reservations about this are viewed as "sensitive" and worrying unnecessarily. But look at this very thread!
⬐ antisthenes> Isn't it funny this thread is dead/flagged?Isn't this the pushback you were talking about? That something is flagged means it's trash that doesn't even warrant the effort of discussion and definitely doesn't belong on the front page.
In fact we're discussing it right now (you can still post in flagged threads, can you not?)
⬐ PKopQuite obviously it limits discussion. It is removed from view of those that didn't see it when it was posted. It is not falling off the main page by virtue of not earning enough engagement/comments/votes from users. It is arbitrarily being pulled.Maybe I don't understand who has the power to "flag" a post, or what the criteria is.
YCombinator can do whatever they want on their site if it is they (the mods) alone who "flag" something. The engagement and discussion is a sign that people want to discuss it. Not sure why it is deemed (by whom?) to be "trash". By you?
My point is, this post relates to programming. It is not a side issue or a triviality or inconsequential.
"Free speech" generally is a fundamental issue that has impact on all areas of society, certainly tech and the internet, and I think this is a free speech issue. It is a discussion of what forms of speech are deemed allowed and what isn't.
⬐ DanBC> Maybe I don't understand who has the power to "flag" a post.Anyone with more than 30 karma can flag a submission or a post.
> It is removed from view
You can change the "showdead" option in your user settings to show killed submissions and posts.
⬐ PKopNoted. Thank youedit: Does this only work when browsing "new", and not the front page / more posts? In other words, I don't see this post, or any posts with the [dead] or [flagged] tag when paging through more from the home page.
⬐ DanBCFlagged posts are going to drop faster than not flagged posts, so they're going to be harder to find if you're browsing from the front page.
> I'm not sure what to put this down to. I usually use terms like feminism and political correctness.This is sometimes called "cultural marxism". It is in my opinion the dominant ideology that permeates our thinking, our language and our behavior nowadays. That's why it is so hard to put our finger on it. We are like a group of goldfish discussing the concept of "water". Dr. Jordan Peterson of the University of Toronto does a great job at explaining how emancipation movements that were born with the best of intentions can transition gradually into tyranny. Though he uses just the word "marxism".
http://www.c2cjournal.ca/2016/12/were-teaching-university-st...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04wyGK6k6HE
Of course there's also the fable "Animal Farm" by George Orwell which masterfully describes the cycle of emancipation from tyranny to a new form of tyranny.
⬐ musha68kEven if I don't agree on many things he says it's worth listening to Jordan Peterson - on the other hand bearing with Joe Rogan usually is very hard for me but he often has very interesting guests on his show I have to give him that..