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Let's Crack Zodiac - Episode 5 - The 340 Is Solved!

David Oranchak · Youtube · 64 HN points · 9 HN comments
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On December 3rd, 2020, an international three-person team of codebreakers made a breakthrough with the Zodiac Killer's unsolved 340-character cipher.
By December 5th, the team finished cracking the cipher and sent the solution to the FBI.

This is the full message from the Zodiac Killer that was hidden in the 340-character cipher for 51 years:

I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING LOTS OF FUN IN TRYING TO CATCH ME
THAT WASNT ME ON THE TV SHOW
WHICH BRINGS UP A POINT ABOUT ME
I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE GAS CHAMBER
BECAUSE IT WILL SEND ME TO PARADICE ALL THE SOONER
BECAUSE I NOW HAVE ENOUGH SLAVES TO WORK FOR ME
WHERE EVERYONE ELSE HAS NOTHING WHEN THEY REACH PARADICE
SO THEY ARE AFRAID OF DEATH
I AM NOT AFRAID BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY NEW LIFE IS
LIFE WILL BE AN EASY ONE IN PARADICE DEATH

The members of the team that cracked the code are:

* Sam Blake (Australia)
* Jarl Van Eycke (Belgium)
* David Oranchak (USA)

This video is my attempt to tell the story of this long overdue breakthrough.

More details are reported in Michael Butterfield's article here:

http://zodiackillerfacts.com/news-and-updates/breaking-news-the-zodiacs-340-cipher-has-been-solved/

Credits:
Music: Dave Miles: Movement (ZapSplat: https://www.zapsplat.com/author/dave-miles-music/page/2/)
“Thanks” animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1whgIrlLio melissariveradesign.com
Jim Dunbar show archival footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTJI4VMu5Os

Mentioned in the video:
AZDecrypt code breaking software by Jarl Van Eycke: http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=3198
Peek-a-boo cryptanalysis software by Heiko Kalista: http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=3255
Zkdecrypto by Brax Cisco et. al.: https://code.google.com/archive/p/zkdecrypto/

Mike Morford’s Zodiac site: http://zodiackillersite.com
Michael Butterfield’s Zodiac site: http://zodiackillerfacts.com
Tom Voigt’s Zodiac site: http://zodiackiller.com

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

We dedicate these efforts to the victims of the Zodiac Killer, their families and descendants.

We hope that one day justice will prevail.
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David Oranchak's video last on his, Sam Blake's and Jarl Van Eycke's cracking of Cipher Z-340 last year : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1oQLPRE21o
newsclues
Yeah looking forward to seeing what he has to say about this!
it's explained by the crackers in a YouTube video. It's a pretty basic substitution encoding, except one letter of the alphabet can be encoded by a variety of symbols.

It was difficult to solve because the cypher has three different sections, and they're intended to be read diagonally, but each section also has some additional minor ad hoc rules.

https://youtu.be/-1oQLPRE21o

busyant
It would be interesting to know how they realized there were 3 different sections.

In the video, he notes that 2 of the three sections have the same number of lines (10 iirc) and the 3rd section has only 2 lines.

I wonder if it was just trial and error that made them realize there were 3 sections or if there were "compositional" differences that made each section stand out from the others.

rmac
The code breakers said that discovering Z340 was three sections was "luck" but it's likely they were informed by previous zodiac antics:

"On July 31, 1969, Zodiac sent his first cipher: the famous three-part cipher Z408. The Z408 was separated into three different parts..."

Dec 12, 2020 · 3 points, 0 comments · submitted by wavelander
Bingo. Yes, the placement of "IS LIFE" was their guess and yours is so much better.

They mention it at: https://youtu.be/-1oQLPRE21o?t=520

Dec 11, 2020 · 5 points, 0 comments · submitted by aerovistae
PARADICE was spelled the same across all of his previous messages, so it's a really good indication that this cipher was correct. This YouTube gets into the details of how they cracked it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1oQLPRE21o

sduenas
It's also interesting that PARADICE appears in this message twice. One time is spelled backwards (ECIDARAP). Probably he did this because how his first cipher was cracked withing hours/days.

It was cracked by the wife of this high-school teacher. She thought the cipher would start with the word "I" and it would also contain words like "KILL". She found these words within the message so with the help of his husband, they guessed the key and the whole message.

I think Zodiac learned from his mistakes and decide to make it more complicated spelling it backwards, so the same symbols won't appear twice. He probably thought code-breakers would also be looking for important words he included on his earlier messages, such as "paradice" or "slave/s". Having a long sequence of symbols that appears twice and transposing them to his most known words could have led to break the code really fast.

Dec 11, 2020 · 4 points, 0 comments · submitted by at-fates-hands
Dec 11, 2020 · 2 points, 0 comments · submitted by areoform
Crackers started a YouTube series to detail their efforts and solved it in 5 episodes (!!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1oQLPRE21o&feature=youtu.be

rmrfstar
Can you give a TLDR on the technique that worked? Was it something automated, or clever use of pad and paper?
Fnoord
FTA:

> Oranchak, a 46-year-old web designer who lives in Virginia, has been working on the Zodiac’s codes since 2006.

The YouTube video you linked (disclaimer: I did not watch it) appears to be by the very same author, David (Dave) Oranchak.

Dec 11, 2020 · 50 points, 8 comments · submitted by jonthepirate
notadev
This is such an awesome accomplishment for the team and a great demo for the AZdecrypt program used to help decipher the message.

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=3198

ValueNull
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1337480518074503170
1cvmask
This puts to rest the Ted Cruz Zodiac Killer meme:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz–Zodiac_Killer_meme

Accujack
Amazing work, and really shows how amateur cryptographers can contribute to detective work.

I especially like the software tools involved.

abalaji
I wonder if this will get us any closer to the famous short cipher that was mentioned in the video
jonthepirate
Solution clear text:

I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING LOTS OF FUN IN TRYING TO CATCH ME THAT WASNT ME ON THE TV SHOW WHICH BRINGS UP A POINT ABOUT ME I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE GAS CHAMBER BECAUSE IT WILL SEND ME TO PARADICE ALL THE SOONER BECAUSE I NOW HAVE ENOUGH SLAVES TO WORK FOR ME WHERE EVERYONE ELSE HAS NOTHING WHEN THEY REACH PARADICE SO THEY ARE AFRAID OF DEATH I AM NOT AFRAID BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY NEW LIFE IS LIFE WILL BE AN EASY ONE IN PARADICE DEATH

ganoushoreilly
Thanks, I was skipping through pretty quickly to get the gist of it and read the text.
zuzun
I would consider moving the 'LIFE IS' before the last word to make it 'LIFE IS DEATH'.
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