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Pulley Logic Gates

Alex Gorischek · Vimeo · 200 HN points · 0 HN comments
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The essence of digital computing is the use of continuous physical states to represent a discrete number of symbols and the ability to perform logic based on those symbols. Although electronic circuits are exceptionally well-suited for this, any system that can handle symbols as both input and output is a digital computer. Here, I've demonstrated the construction of simple digital computers (specifically, binary logic gates) using pulleys and weights.
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Jul 05, 2018 · 38 points, 7 comments · submitted by gballan
ianbertolacci
But can you play Doom on it?
pavel_lishin
Yes, but the framerate is horrendous.
gene-h
Of course this technology is old, the Aprahulians used similiar techniques to build quite large digital computers around 850 CE[0].*

Of course on problem with such pulley logic is the difficulty of building signal amplifiers. Without signal amplification one must pull the inputs quite hard such that all tension is provided to all stages. The Aprahulians were believed to use elephants for this task.

[0]http://robert.surton.net/cs271/apraphulian.pdf *it is important that readers take careful note of when this article was published

bouvin
Seeing the headline, I thought of the same article, which I enjoyed greatly when it was originally published. Good fun.
amitprayal
Calling in your bluff, no such people "Aprahulians"
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thatcherc
Does the article say when it was published? If I had to guess I would say around late March or early April :)
dang
Discussed at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7824588.
Mar 29, 2016 · 3 points, 0 comments · submitted by vyrotek
May 31, 2014 · 2 points, 1 comments · submitted by diafygi
ColinWright
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7824588
May 30, 2014 · 157 points, 19 comments · submitted by vinchuco
shagie
This reminds me of an article written for the April (first) edition of Scientific American many years ago... 1988.

The key thing to look for is the word 'Apraphul' which is the name of the island this was 'discovered' in. The part of the text of the article can be seen at Google Books [1] (many of the articles are behind a paywall)... though finely digging enough, I found it in a forum with part of the article [2]. Still, searching on 'Apraphul Pully' can take you to a number of other interesting pages (including one discussing the article's system).

[1] http://books.google.com/books?id=0Rb5jBg6sJwC&pg=PA117&lpg=P...

[2] http://s10.zetaboards.com/The_New_Coffee_Room/topic/7132776/...

lalos
Fun fact, if you can build a NAND gate or a NOR gate, you can derive all other functions. This is called functional completeness.
vampirebat
And you have to be able to compose gates.

Not to detract from a very cool demonstration, but it appears that all of the energy comes from the "inputs" which have to overcome all of the frictional forces in the system. With semiconductor gates, each gate provide the energy required to drive the gates it is connected to which facilitates composition.

GauntletWizard
Yes, this system is also prone to 'fuzzy' states due do slight variances that would multiply quite a bit if used for a full computation. It'd be cool to see a rectifier for this system, which will guarantee a full 1 or 0 state given a marginal state, though I'm not entirely certain how you'd build one.
bigiain
Mechanical engineers have been solving that problem in various ways for hundreds of years. The gate in a film projector(or camera), the steam valve block on many steam engines, even the gear selector drum assembly on a motorcycle gearbox - and the mechanical gubbins inside every lightswitch displays the sort of hysteresis you need. I bet a typical 1950's engineer would solve that problem for you in a dozen ways in 20 minutes. (these days I suspect many engineers today would reach for a microcontroller and a servomotor or solenoid...)
aetherspawn
Extremely impressive. Almost tempting enough to try and build an adder, but I fear for anything larger than a few gates the concept starts to become clunky to implement (see the gates at the end of the video ..)
petercooper
You can do it with dominoes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNuPy-r1GuQ
michaelmior
I was just wondering how long it would take someone to build an adder. I wouldn't be surprised if someone went for it.
aetherspawn
Adders are curiously simple! You just need a clock, otherwise they kind of break. How you clock weights ... hnng, no ideas there.
speeder
Dripping stuff on buckets?
qbrass
Pendulum clock. http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/clocks-watches/... Was the best illustration of a simple one.
LVB
A marble adder, also fun: http://woodgears.ca/marbleadd/index.html
saint-loup
To file in the list of unconventional computing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconventional_computing
duncanawoods
Nice. It made me think of this piece of art by Michael Craig-Martin. A confounding pulley system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yQdFX7BgzA#t=354

edit: btw I can recommend every engineer watches this BBC series "what do artists do all day". The thinking processes of artists share a lot more with engineering that I expected and I found all episodes absolutely fascinating.

sudhirj
Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/505/
baddox
That's a cool implementation. It reminds me of domino logic gates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SudixyugiX4.
sigterm
I was totally expecting this before clicking the link... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_logic
chas
This is incredible! After hearing about the MIT tinker toy optimal tic-tac-toe machine[1], I built a half-adder out of dominoes[2] around the same time period as that video and hadn't ever heard of anyone else messing with the concept.

[1] http://museum.mit.edu/nom150/entries/1215 [2] http://imgur.com/a/qq7Kl

hedgehog
I was curious about other mechanical digital logic projects and this stood out in the reading:

http://www.elazary.com/index.php?view=article&id=46

The rest of the blog is pretty interesting too.

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