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Blind Man's Bluff: The Untold Story of American Submarine Espionage
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All the comments and stories posted to Hacker News that reference this book.> Why would the US care about a PR disaster? It's not like Europe has any choice in the matter at this point.Because the will of the allied sanction group is strongly dependent upon PR? The EU nations are a fractious group on the best of days. One of the reasons why the support for Ukraine and sanctions for Russia were so swift was the fact that Biden played the PR and intelligence game perfectly.
> What?
What part of my statement is not clear? Putin is worried about assassins. Taking out Putin and taking over Russia can be converted to cash very quickly by turning the pipeline back on even before sanctions get lifted. Blowing up the pipeline prevents any would be assassins from making use of it later. Putin will suffer neither PR backlash (he controls the Russian media) nor diplomatic backlash (he has already been isolated) for blowing up the pipeline.
And I note that you completely ignored the point that the US would do this with subs (and this was what they could do 30+ years ago). See: Blind Man's Bluff--https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/...
⬐ flanflanI'm not going to keep going back and forth with you but since you insist on me addressing the subs thing it's worth pointing out that the ships mentioned in the article were just present in the days ahead of the leaks and there is no concrete evidence they were the attackers.
Blind Man's Bluff:https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/...
I think it's on par with Skunk Works. Absolutely amazing stories about submarine espionage, stealth fighters but underwater.
⬐ zizeeThankyou, I will check it out :-)
You should read 'Blind Mans Bluff' - its about US submarines doing exactly that about 30 years ago.https://www.amazon.com.au/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espiona...
We haven't put skids on the bottom of the boats in a really long time either. Doesn't make the stories any less interesting though.https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/...
"Blind Man's Bluff"https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/...
If you found this interesting, I can't recommend Blind Man's Bluff[0] enough.[0] https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/...
⬐ epsTruly fascinating book and very easy to read.⬐ ghaffThere's apparently some controversy over the Scorpion theory presented in the book and presumably no one will know the actual answer at this point. But, yeah, it's a good read.
You mean like the US nuke subs did 40 years ago?https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/...