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The Outsiders: Eight Unconventional CEOs and Their Radically Rational Blueprint for Success
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All the comments and stories posted to Hacker News that reference this book.Not specific to just tech teams, but I loved The Outsiders: Eight Unconventional CEOs and Their Radically Rational Blueprint for Success by William Thorndike. So many great notes about leadership and successfully running a business in general.https://www.amazon.com/Outsiders-Unconventional-Radically-Ra...
There's an excellent book (you're probably aware of) called The Outsiders. It compares the results of operations focused CEO's like Welch to capital allocators like Buffett, Singleton, and Malone. The thesis is that overtime, the good cap allocators just blow everyone else out of the water.http://www.amazon.com/Outsiders-Unconventional-Radically-Rat...
“An outstanding book about CEOs who excelled at capital allocation.” — Warren Buffett
⬐ spinchangeI was not aware of this one but appreciate the recommendation! I've also been a follower of John Malone's over the years so this sounds like a very interesting read. Added to my list!
It's almost as if they read "the outsiders"[0][0] http://www.amazon.com/The-Outsiders-Unconventional-Radically...
⬐ storgendibalYes! Both FB and now G are organized this way. Warren Buffet is really something else.
Hi Joel- thanks for being open to the feedback.Like you said, you are in growth mode. To me, growth mode means reinvesting as much of the profits as possible back into the company. Paying yourself a large salary during this time is the same as taking money off the table.
There are some good reasons to take money off the table, like paying back personal debt or supporting family members. But paying yourself more because you're the CEO doesn't seem like a good one, because your equity position is so significant.
If you don't have a good reason to take money off the table, it signals to employees and investors that "Joel thinks the money is better spent going into his personal bank account vs. making the company's equity grow in value." That sort of logic doesn't work in a startup that is targeting high growth, where employees are hoping to receive some sort of payoff from their equity. Moreover, it casts doubt on your judgment in capital allocation, which is one of the most important responsibilities of a founder / CEO. *
Obviously, all of this logic falls apart if you're not working on a startup. Low growth businesses that have achieved much of their potential are a totally different story. But you aren't starting a restaurant. Even Uber, at its $4B valuation, is giving compensation packages that are weighted towards options vs. salary.
* http://www.amazon.com/The-Outsiders-Unconventional-Radically...
⬐ joelgascoigneThanks for the detailed comment, that makes a lot of sense to me. Also, what an awesome book that looks like. I've just grabbed it. Thanks.