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Minding My Mitochondria 2nd Edition: How I overcame secondary progressive multiple sclerosis (MS) and got out of my wheelchair.
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All the comments and stories posted to Hacker News that reference this book.Just to note, I believe Terry Wahls has been arguing a version of this for at least a decade (https://www.amazon.com/Minding-Mitochondria-2nd-progressive-...) and has written a diet (the Wahls Protocol) directed towards mitochondrial health.I've been interested in her ideas ever since close family contracted an autoimmune disease.
⬐ faeyanpiraatLook for unbiased meta-analyses on this topic. I haven't found any evidence that diets can cure or significantly modify MS disease progression.I'm affected by it so believe me if I say that I really wanted to find something reassuring, but the evindence is just not there.
⬐ lambdabaI've had MS and fully recovered with a carnivore diet (started with "paleo", similar to Whals protocol). I've come to believe it's all about gut permeability. There's a clinic in Hungary practicing this with various illnesses, calling it a "paleolithic ketogenic" diet (very high fat, low food volume, again for fast gut healing).I'm fully convinced that I would have been crippled by now if not for the dietary changes.
I mention this often in online discussions and usually get a lot of pushback. It's very strange to me how people can doubt that diet plays a MAJOR role in health.
⬐ faeyanpiraatMay I ask which clinic are you talking about?⬐ lambdabaPaleomedicina. Zsofia Clemens, one of the researchers, has a Twitter presence as well.They likewise get pushback from the name alone, but hopefully motivated people will look past that.
⬐ faeyanpiraatYeah I see some wild claims there.Need to look into it further to verify.
Thanks!
⬐ lambdabaI understand the skepticism, but I urge you to look into the people running the clinic, they are honest and credible people, and the results are real. They also recount that they have trouble with people finding such a simple solution in-credible.⬐ faeyanpiraatI might be wrong, but it seems like they are charging a couple thousand euros for this simple solution?⬐ lambdabaIf you're interested in a case of a person treating brain cancer successfully with a similar diet, look up Andrew Scarborough, he's presently a cancer researcher iirc, but he has been using such a diet for years to successfully put a rare inoperable brain cancer into remission.⬐ faeyanpiraat⬐ lambdabaI've skimmed your comment history and I think we could have some productive conversations outside of HN, if you want you can send me your preferred way to contact you to: [email protected](köszi)
⬐ lambdabaSent you an emailThey offer a service that includes their supervision... The diet itself isn't proprietary, and given their results I don't mind they charge a decent amount. But, again, the diet is basically: get almost all of your calories from animal fat (four-legged animals, because of the particular fatty acid profile), eat enough protein but not in excess, and eat organ meats (liver, brain, etc.) once a week.I don't know how you make your judgments but if you look at any intervention by Zsófia Clemens she will strike you as an obviously decent person, these people are not charlatans.
Also, this animal-based ketogenic approach is not unique to them, the "zerocarb" / "carnivore" community is also full of testimonials of people reversing various conditions, especially autoimmune disease. This high-fat approach tends to attract people who are in more difficult / urgent situations, such as late-stage, inoperable cancers.