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Nisargadatta Maharaj, Translated by Maurice Frydman, Sudhakar S. Dikshit · 1 HN comments
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Back cover This collection of the timeless teachings of one of the greatest sages of India, Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, is a testament to the uniqueness of the seer's life and work and is regarded by many as a modern spiritual classic. I Am That (first published in 1973) continues to draw new audiences and to enlighten seekers anxious for self-realization. Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj was a teacher who did not propound any ideology or religion, but gently unwrapped the mystery of the self. His message was simple, direct, and sublime. I Am That preserves his dialogs with the followers who came from around the world seeking guidance in destroying false identities. The sage's sole concern was with the human suffering and the ending of suffering. It was his mission to guide the individual to an understanding of his true nature and the timelessness of being. He taught that the mind must recognize and penetrate its own state of being--not "being this or that, here or there, then or now," but just timeless being. A simple man, Maharaj was a householder and petty storekeeper in Bombay where he lived and died in 1981 at the age of 84. He had not been educated formally but came to be respected and loved for his insights into the crux of human pain and for the extraordinary lucidity of his direct disclosure. Hundreds of diverse seekers traveled the globe and sought him out in his unpretentious home in Bombay (now Mumbai) to hear him. To all of them, he gave hope that "beyond the real experience is not the mind, but the self, the light in which everything appears ... the awareness in which everything happens." In the humble abode of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, but for the electric lights and the noises of the street traffic, one would not know in which period of human history one dwells. There is an atmosphere of timelessness about his tiny room; the subjects discussed are timeless -- valid for all times; the way they are expounded and examined is also timeless; the centuries, millennia and yugas fall off and one deals with matters immensely ancient and eternally new. The discussions held and teachings given would have been the same ten thousand years ago and will be the same ten thousand years hence. There will always be conscious beings wondering about the fact of their being conscious and enquiring into its cause and aim. Whence am I? Who am I? Whither am I? Such questions have no beginning and no end. And it is crucial to know the answers, for without a full understanding of oneself, both in time and in timelessness, life is but a dream, imposed on us by powers we do not know, for purposes we cannot grasp. I Am That is a legacy from a unique teacher who helps the reader to a clearer understanding of himself as he comes to Maharaj with the age-old question, "Who am I?" Seekers were never turned away from the humble abode of Maharaj during his life and can still find their answers to this timeless question in the pages of this book today.
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I found asian philosophies very interesting in this regard. There is an interesting Hindu philosophy about 4 states - awake, sleep, dream and turiya. In below video, lecturer explained them very beautifully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGKFTUuJppU

Also you might enjoy Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid where author tried to explain self-referential systems.

If you pick up any interest in asian philosophies, try https://www.amazon.com/Who-Am-Sri-Ramana-Maharshi/dp/1537599... and https://www.amazon.com/I-Am-That-Nisargadatta-Maharaj/dp/089...

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Yes, it's called Advaita Vedanta. Swami Sarvapriyananda's lectures are always a great source of knowledge about Advaita.

So Advaita is about you, that is, about consciousness. You are consciousness. And then it goes something like "you're not your body and you're not your mind, you are the "pure subjectivity" present in any qualia, you are Sakshi." Or Atman, also a popular term. Also there's that equation that Atman = Brahman (brahman being the universe/existence itself? [1] but I don't buy it, maybe I don't understand what that means yet) And all of this supposedly is ought to make you feel better about your own problems or suffering, idk? I'm not sure how tbh, I just have a metaphysical interest in this topic. It didn't help me with my problems.

So in every qualia there is the content of experience, and then there is the very first-personal givenness of whatever is subjectively given [2]. Experiential presence. But it's only a conceptual difference, not a real nomological/metaphysical one. There's just qualia. There cannot be qualia without an experiencer, an experiencing that is happening. We wouldn't even call that "qualia". Similarly, there cannot be just this abstract quality of first-personal givenness, mere subjectivity without contents. We wouldn't call that an experience.

So in Advaitic terms: consciousness = subjectivity = Sakshi (just a laconic term) [3] = experiential presence = immediacy of experience = mineness = for-me-ness = the first-personal givenness of experience = the real metaphysical "I". So contrary to popular nowadays philosophers of mind, quale is not consciousness. Qualia consist of 1) consciousness and 2) contents of consciousness. And these two are inseparable, I make only a difference in words to explain what it is, on the level of concepts. In nature there are only experiences going on.

Advaita says that you are that which experiences. Whatever you experience — that you are not. This is a useful phrase to remember. A distinction. You observe happenings of your mind just as you observe your body and the outside world and everything else. (the mind is even sometimes called as "the subtle body" by Advaitins)

You are singular, only one. Experiences - many

You - never change, but experiences come and go

You are very simple and propertyless, but your experiences and feelings are complex and can change

There is no seer and the seen, there is only a process of "seeing", and you are that. Also from this follows that I am you and every conscious person, animal or being is the very same subjectivity, instantiated in different contexts (locations, times). This is also sometimes called Open Individualism theory of personal identity (term coined by Daniel Kolak) [4] [5] [6], or sometimes Universalism by Arnold Zuboff [7] [8], or as in writings of Edralis [9] [10].

There's also that concept of self-luminosity (svaprakasatva), that self-consciousness is just consciousness. Light reveals many other objects but simultaneously reveals itself. You don't need another source of light to see light. For advaitins, light is a metaphor for you, for consciousness. [11]

Also the mistaken identification of yourself, as consciousness, with your mind is called Adhyāsa (superimposition) [12]. There's a technique for grasping this concept intuitively called Drig Drishya Viveka, Swami Sarvapriyananda often talks about it [13].

References:

1 // https://doi.org/10.1093/monist/onab023

2 // The I: A dimensional account https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11097-020-09697-9

3 // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakshi_(Witness)

4 // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_individualism

5 // http://digitalphysics.ru/pdf/Kaminskii_A_V/Kolak_I_Am_You.pd...

6 // https://opentheory.net/2018/09/a-new-theory-of-open-individu...

7 // http://nsl.com/misc/zuboff/zuboff1.htm

8 // https://philpapers.org/rec/ZUBOST

9 // https://edralis.wordpress.com/2020/07/24/mineness-and-person...

10 // https://edralis.wordpress.com/2020/07/24/i-could-have-been-s...

11 // Consciousness in Advaita Vedanta, p.36 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3678791-consciousness-in...

12 // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhyāsa

13 // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dṛg-Dṛśya-Viveka

Further reading:

// Prakāśa. A few reflections on the Advaitic understanding of consciousness as presence and its relevance for philosophy of mind https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11097-020-09690-2

// Galen Strawson - What is the Relation Between an Experience, the Subject of the Experience, and the Content of the Experience? chapter 6 of https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6689029-real-materialism

// chapter 5 & chapter 10 of https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/33357091

Mario Montano's youtube videos:

// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WKqO16mkGE

// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF5dVjRgXeU

// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uz6anwm47g

// Complex Numbers - We, 22nd Century. Electronic opera (english version) https://youtu.be/zC1o9CjeefI?t=1025

// https://www.naturalism.org/philosophy/death/death-nothingnes...

// http://web.archive.org/web/20210121121148/https://vitrifyher...

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This is a great amount of references, thank you for providing the next week of research for me :)
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