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English Words from Latin and Greek Elements

Donald M. Ayers, Thomas D. Worthen, R. L. Cherry · 3 HN comments
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Since 1965, Donald Ayers' English Words from Latin and Greek Elements has helped thousands of students to a broader vocabulary by showing them how to recognize classical roots in modern English words. Its second edition, published in 1986, has confirmed that vocabulary is best taught by root, not rote. The importance of learning classical word roots is already acknowledged by vocabulary texts that devote chapters to them. Why a whole book based on this approach? Ayers' text exposes students to a wider range of roots, introduces new English words in context sentences, and reinforces vocabulary through exercises. It promotes more practice with roots so that students learn to use them as tools in their everyday encounters with new words. English Words is written from the standpoint of English; it neither attempts to teach students Latin or Greek nor expects a knowledge of classical languages on the part of instructors. Its success has been demonstrated at both the secondary and college levels, and it can be used effectively with students in remedial or accelerated programs. An Instructor's Manual (gratis with adoption) and a Workbook are also available.
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This line from the article was interesting: "And he does not think much of Benedict's tweets in Latin - 'the last one was a real case of messing up Latin word order'." That's especially bad, because Latin tends to have freer word order than (for example) English in the first place.

In my university days, I had a girlfriend who was studying German and Latin (to become a secondary school teacher in those two subjects). My wife I won over with the much more practical modern language Chinese. Incidental study of Latin is useful to native speakers of Romance languages (French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Romanian, and the like) to understand the origin of their native language, and somewhat less useful to speakers of most languages spoken in Europe, whether Indo-European languages or not, to understand the sources of much of their vocabulary. (Concentrated study of the sources of vocabularly of modern languages through study of word roots

http://www.amazon.com/English-Words-Latin-Greek-Elements/dp/...

http://www.amazon.com/English-Vocabulary-Elements-Keith-Denn...

is very helpful, but that doesn't require learning Latin as a language as such.)

As long as there are great landmarks in Western writing like Newton's Principia available in original Latin editions, there will always be a reward for learning Latin. But with many languages to learn to speak to many people, Latin will not be in first place as the language to learn next for interesting live conversation.

cafard
Latin should be a fine language for Twitter, as wedging a lot into not many words. A lot of Spinoza's paragraphs in the Ethics would certainly fit in 140 characters.
GuiA
If that's a criteria for language selection, might as well all go with Chinese :)
cafard
Well, sure, but maybe not at the Vatican.
gamegoblin
IIRC Vietnamese has the highest syllabic information density of any natural language. Chinese being a close second (about 94% that of Vietnamese).

Edit: found that article http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2091477,00.ht...

FreakLegion
It's very difficult to 'mess up' Latin word order. Just because something doesn't read like Caesar or Cicero doesn't mean it's wrong. Latin allows for a lot of rhetorical flair -- Horace's word order, for example, can be incredibly jumbled, but it's perfectly correct. The tweets are probably fine, just like Milton's English is fine.
Previous HN thread:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=419795

What I said then was that I read a lot of speed-reading books when I was in college. I was working my way through, living in my own rented place, so time was of the essence. But I eventually decided that a lot of speed-reading techniques are less useful than they appear. The most helpful book I discovered during that research phase was Reading for Power and Flexibility

http://www.amazon.com/Reading-Power-Flexibility-Sparks-Johns...

which was a refreshing change of emphasis from most other speed-reading books.

Good techniques I learned from various sources were pre-reading (for example, making sure to read the whole table of contents, the whole preface/introduction/foreword, and even the whole index before starting the book proper); focused vocabulary development targeting words with Latin and Greek roots used in the international scientific vocabulary; and daring not to read a whole book if reading one section of it would answer my question.

Good vocabulary development books are English Vocabulary Elements

http://www.amazon.com/English-Vocabulary-Elements-Keith-Denn...

and English Words from Latin and Greek Elements

http://www.amazon.com/English-Words-Latin-Greek-Elements/dp/...

Both of those books will help you to read faster by helping you recognize word meanings from word roots.

justlearning
"Good techniques I learned from various sources were pre-reading..."

Thank you. These are the kind of notes I am looking for.

I read a lot of speed-reading books when I was in college. I was working my way through, living in my own rented place, so time was of the essence. But I eventually decided that a lot of speed-reading techniques are less useful than they appear. The most helpful book I discovered during that research phase was Reading for Power and Flexibility

http://www.amazon.com/Reading-Power-Flexibility-Sparks-Johns...

which was a refreshing change of emphasis from most other speed-reading books.

Good techniques I learned from various sources were pre-reading (for example, making sure to read the whole table of contents, the whole preface/introduction/foreword, and even the whole index before starting the book proper); focused vocabulary development targeting words with Latin and Greek roots used in the international scientific vocabulary; and daring not to read a whole book if reading one section of it would answer my question.

Good vocabulary development books are

http://www.amazon.com/English-Vocabulary-Elements-Keith-Denn...

and

http://www.amazon.com/English-Words-Latin-Greek-Elements/dp/...

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