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Caste (Oprah's Book Club): The Origins of Our Discontents
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All the comments and stories posted to Hacker News that reference this book.> ... if they have no interest and you turn around and blame it on men that allegedly discriminateThe very first programmer was a woman, and in the early days of computing history they were over 40% of all programmers [1]. The idea that "they have no interest" is bullshit [2]; talk to women in tech (and the ones who quit) and you'll quickly learn why that is the case.
> I reject the analysis that there are systemic issues, there is no evidence at all.
That's the same argument used by folks who deny systemic racism in the US, despite decades of historical context [3]. It's a convenient position, particularly for those in a place of privilege. Of course you're free to believe in whatever you want, but if you don't want to put in the effort and learn from other's perspectives, then you're part of the problem.
[1] https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/10/06/34...
[2] https://www.amazon.com/Brotopia-Emily-Chang-audiobook/dp/B07...
[3] https://www.amazon.com/Caste-Origins-Discontents-Isabel-Wilk...
⬐ raxxorraxorI talked to all 5 women in tech that started to study with me. 1 got her degree together with 20 men from over 120 students, the other all changed subjects after the first semesters. How can there be discrimination if there wasn't even a possibility for it? This was technical computer science that is even worse than general computer science in regards to gender ratio. It just makes no sense at all, it defies any logic to propose this can be discrimination. There might be some cases, but there needs to be an effect that is far more relevant. The numbers of people starting computer science is evidence you cannot just reject, you leave reality behind at that point.I lived with women in a shared apartment who studied economics. They simply didn't like computer science.