Hacker News Comments on
College Unbound: The Future of Higher Education and What It Means for Students
Hacker News Stories and CommentsAll the comments and stories posted to Hacker News that reference this book.
Starbucks is using ASU's famously developed online course infrastructure and its own massive headcount to educate all of its employees in a way that will add little marginal cost for either entity. Thought the normal ASU cost per credit is ~$500, I would be amazed if Starbucks ended up spending even a third of that.
ASU president Michael Crow is profiled positively as one of the more progressive thinkers in higher ed the 2013 book College Unbound: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0544027078/ref=as_li_tf_tl?... I wouldn't be surprised if ASU went on to work out a deal with other big retailers that employ a lot of people who haven't finished college yet. ASU's marginal costs will continue to fall as they get more students into the pipes. Walmart, McDonalds and other large employers could be next to partner with them.
⬐ avz> ...to educate all of its employees in a way that will add little marginal cost for either entity.
Is it somehow evil to boost education cost-effectively?⬐ the_watcher>> Is it somehow evil to boost education cost-effectively?
Pretty sure the OP feels that education at a low marginal cost is a fantastically positive thing.⬐ naturalethicHe forgot to think about how it might reduce marginal cost for both.⬐ dkokelleyI don't think that's the connotation of the OP's sentence.
I think this is old news. Tenure as a whole likely costs the system more than it brings in intellectual freedom benefits. It's a fallacy to think that more experienced tenured teachers are better educators, when it's research success that got them tenure.
Jeff Selingo (http://www.jeffselingo.com/) writes extensively about how colleges are reacting to changes in demographics and technology. He doesn't think Yale or Harvard will need to change, but the public and private schools a tier below will need to. His book (http://www.amazon.com/College-Un-bound-Education-Students/dp...) is a good read for parents.
⬐ lifeisstillgoodI think you are agreeing - It is the research that matters. Newton for example was a spectacularly bad teacher. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_Sir_Isaac_Newton#...)⬐ mathattackFor tenure and societal benefit, yes. Was so for teaching though undergrad research can be a good experience.