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Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era
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All the comments and stories posted to Hacker News that reference this book.Yes.This was anticipated and salivated over by the likes of Zbigniew K. Brzezinski.
https://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Americas-Technetroni...
https://archive.org/details/B-001-003-798 (for the pdf)
No, in the article I'm referencing he goes further, to concepts. It's here: https://www.amazon.com/What-Category-Theory-Giandomenico-Sic...I had confused in my mind -tectonic with a phrase from another book I admire: https://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Americas-Technetroni.... I guess that's what I get for not double-checking; and you get a random book link :)
⬐ fapjacksHowever thanks for not using referral/affiliate links. :)⬐ notfashionYes, I did (later on) see his "stretch" version of the slogan at the end of the article, but I don't buy it. Everyone knows there are operations that can't be encoded in category theoretic terms, for example a lot of things in analysis. It's silly to claim that it subsumes all concepts.He also alludes in that final paragraph to Kant (who used the term architectonic in his philosophy) so that's a hint that he has a Kantian perspective in mind. IMO that makes that final paragraph too speculative and frankly just out of scope if we're trying to talk about the design of software. I know a bit about Kant, and it seems to me that he doesn't really have anything to say about what a theory of the design of abstractions would look like. It's all too much of a stretch. Combining philosophers and category theory (take Zalamea for example) seems to produce "architecture astronauts,".
This was all laid out in Zbigniew Brzezinski's book "The Technetronic Era" back in the early 70s. They've been hard at work on all of this ever since. It's part of a clear detailed long-term vision and they've just been putting the finishing touches on it and everyone acts like it just happened all by itself.http://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Americas-Technetronic...
>"The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities." (This was an excellent prediction although it is slightly worse now.)
>'In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities effectively exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason." (Fox CNN and facebook?)
>"Today we are again witnessing the emergence of transnational elites ... [Whose] ties cut across national boundaries ...It is likely that before long the social elites of most of the more advanced countries will be highly internationalist or globalist in spirit and outlook ... The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty... Further progress will require greater American sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be undertaken, with some consequent risk to the present relatively favorable American position."
⬐ jdp23great quotes!