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Wars, Guns, and Votes: Democracy in Dangerous Places
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All the comments and stories posted to Hacker News that reference this book.The good news is we can already test this hypothesis by looking at the countries that already enforce compulsory voting [1]:Which one of these is a democratic paradise that the author would like to emulate?Argentina Australia Belgium Bolivia Brazil Ecuador Liechtenstein Luxembourg Nauru North Korea Peru Pitcairn Islands Samoa Singapore Swiss canton of Schaffhausen Uruguay
Australia is probably the best of the bunch but it's demography and geography are not comparable to the US, a lot of things that work there don't translate here and vice versa.
The author theorizes:
> When the only question voters face is whose ideas they prefer, politicians will naturally focus on developing and debating real world ideas rather than fantasies, and democracy can live up to its moral and practical potential.
O RLY? Is that the situation in Argentina, Bolivia and Ecuador? TL;DR: No.
This article also presumes the bedrock of democracy is elections, but in fact that's just one dimension and not necessarily the most important one -- rule of law, civil institutions, a functioning state are all equally if not more important than the selection of specific leaders.
Good book on this topic: https://www.amazon.com/Wars-Guns-Votes-Democracy-Dangerous/d...
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_voting#:~:text=15)%...
⬐ xtracto> but it's [sic] demography and geography are not comparable to the US, a lot of things that work there don't translate here and vice versa.You should have started you post with that... discounting any other place because their demographics "are not comparable" to the US makes any additional argument moot.
⬐ Dah00n>Australia is probably the best of the bunchThe country on the list most similar to the US is the best? That's very American of you. As someone not in any of those countries (US included) I could pick four or five before I got to Australia.
>O RLY? Is that the situation in Argentina, Bolivia and Ecuador? TL;DR: No.
Please don't do that.
⬐ bawolff> Australia is probably the best of the bunch but it's demography and geography are not comparable to the US, a lot of things that work there don't translate here and vice versa.Americans say that about literally everything. Sure comparisons are always imperfect, but its kind of silly how americans dismiss every comparision on the basis of "we're unique". America is not that unique.